# Causal Inference Sub Group 2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** AIML AWG Open Projects\ **Tags:** aiml\ **Created:** [January 10, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720 "2025-01-10T21:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pmisra30](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/pmisra30/32/328_2.png) [@pmisra30](https://awg.osdr.space/u/pmisra30)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/1 "2025-01-10T21:03:37Z")
Dear all, Thanks a lot for showing active interest in this subgroup & responding the earlier survey ( I have got response from 20 people which is super exciting ) . I am creating this topic on the portal to have one active page for this subgroup.Many of you were interested in understanding more details about work done in this subgroup and plans for the year 2025. I have summarized the same below, Feel free to post your questions/doubts related with this subgroup. I will also be creating an event for our regular meeting cadence. # Background The causal Inference subgroup is one of the subgroups in AI/ML AWG ( analysis working group) under the Open Science Data Repository AWG Community ‘Space.’ This subgroup works on building and improving solutions for causal inference in existing and new use cases of biological numerical data. Currently, CRISP ( [AI4LS/crispv1.1 at main · nasa/AI4LS · GitHub](https://github.com/nasa/AI4LS/tree/main/crispv1.1) ) is used for causal Inference. It is an ensemble model and primarily designed for structured datasets. The reference paper associated with this is available at [Prototyping CRISP: A Causal Relation and Inference Search Platform applied to Colorectal Cancer Data | IEEE Conference Publication | IEEE Xplore](https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9391819/) # Roadmap 2025 The three primary objectives for this year are - 1. Improving the accuracy of the existing CRISP model & testing/validating new ML models can help improve the coverage/accuracy. One approach to this is to find a biomedical dataset(s) where the causal relationships have been already established in the lab, and validate our causal algorithms on that dataset. Another approach is to use a structural equation modeling (SEM) approach in which a known causal structure is embedded in a dataset. 2. Evaluating other machine learning models & approaches in causal inference that can also help in unstructured data ( text & images) ,We have a team working on a “multi-modal CRISP”, version of CRISP that can take numeric matrix data and images. It would be great for this subgroup to evaluate and ultimately use that version of CRISP to answer some scientific questions 3. Do a research project to answer a key scientific question in spaceflight, using the improved causal inference algorithms @lauren.sanders @rtscott2001 @james.casaletto ---
**Author:** ![lauren.sanders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/lauren.sanders/32/186_2.png) [@lauren.sanders](https://awg.osdr.space/u/lauren.sanders)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/2 "2025-01-10T22:21:46Z")
Thank you @pmisra30 ! I am looking forward to our first meeting on Jan 15! ---
**Author:** ![rtscott2001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/rtscott2001/32/5_2.png) [@rtscott2001](https://awg.osdr.space/u/rtscott2001)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/3 "2025-01-11T01:16:17Z")
So excited to hear about this. Cheers and thanks Pramod! 🎉 ---
**Author:** ![anna.lewkowicz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/anna.lewkowicz/32/284_2.png) [@anna.lewkowicz](https://awg.osdr.space/u/anna.lewkowicz)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 7:00am UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/4 "2025-01-11T07:00:49Z")
Thanks for the update @pmisra30. Project sounds very interesting, see you at the meeting! ---
**Author:** ![abdelghani.belgaid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/abdelghani.belgaid/32/1298_2.png) [@abdelghani.belgaid](https://awg.osdr.space/u/abdelghani.belgaid)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/5 "2025-01-12T13:07:52Z")
Could anyone point us to datasets similar to the multi-omic colorectal cancer dataset mentioned in the CRISP study, or other biomedical datasets with causal structures suitable for validation? ---
**Author:** ![rtscott2001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/rtscott2001/32/5_2.png) [@rtscott2001](https://awg.osdr.space/u/rtscott2001)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/6 "2025-01-12T16:56:43Z")
@james.casaletto - able to answer abdelghani’s question? @abdelghani.belgaid @lauren.sanders ---
**Author:** ![lauren.sanders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/lauren.sanders/32/186_2.png) [@lauren.sanders](https://awg.osdr.space/u/lauren.sanders)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/7 "2025-01-15T17:35:35Z")
Hi all - a reminder that this subgroup is meeting now! ---
**Author:** ![alexdseo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/alexdseo/32/209_2.png) [@alexdseo](https://awg.osdr.space/u/alexdseo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/8 "2025-01-15T19:12:17Z")
Hi, unfortunately, I had to miss this first meeting for the causal inference subgroup. Are there any meeting minutes or recordings? ---
**Author:** ![abdelghani.belgaid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/abdelghani.belgaid/32/1298_2.png) [@abdelghani.belgaid](https://awg.osdr.space/u/abdelghani.belgaid)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 11:28am UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/9 "2025-01-16T11:28:04Z")
@pmisra30 ---
**Author:** ![pmisra30](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/pmisra30/32/328_2.png) [@pmisra30](https://awg.osdr.space/u/pmisra30)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 5:44pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/10 "2025-01-19T17:44:31Z")
It was the first introductory meeting,so I have not recorded but we will record it from the next time. For this meeting, I will share meeting notes in sometime. hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![vaishnavi.nagesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/vaishnavi.nagesh/32/1236_2.png) [@vaishnavi.nagesh](https://awg.osdr.space/u/vaishnavi.nagesh)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/11 "2025-01-29T17:07:41Z")
I won’t be able to attend today’s meeting. I have another meeting between 9:30-10:30. I want to sign up for literature survey and would love to be put to use. Please record the meeting so that I can listen in after my meeting? ---
**Author:** ![jakubm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/jakubm/32/95_2.png) [@jakubm](https://awg.osdr.space/u/jakubm)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/12 "2025-01-29T17:32:07Z")
Is this meeting starting now? ---
**Author:** ![rtscott2001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/rtscott2001/32/5_2.png) [@rtscott2001](https://awg.osdr.space/u/rtscott2001)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/13 "2025-01-29T19:57:43Z")
@pmisra30 - was there a subgroup mtg today? ---
**Author:** ![naomimusto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/naomimusto/32/1371_2.png) [@naomimusto](https://awg.osdr.space/u/naomimusto)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/14 "2025-02-07T17:14:37Z")
Hello, Is there any requirements to join? I would like to join as I have quite an interest in getting into ML. Thank you in advance for your responses! ---
**Author:** ![rtscott2001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/rtscott2001/32/5_2.png) [@rtscott2001](https://awg.osdr.space/u/rtscott2001)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/15 "2025-02-07T17:16:12Z")
I would make sure to contact @pmisra30 to get involved. Of note, @lauren.sanders is the AI/ML AWG lead. Also would be good to reach out to her on all subgroups 🤗 ---
**Author:** ![pmisra30](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/pmisra30/32/328_2.png) [@pmisra30](https://awg.osdr.space/u/pmisra30)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 4:49pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/16 "2025-02-12T16:49:42Z")
There is no specific requirements for this subgroup apart from what you generally expect in an AI-ML working group. if you have worked in datasets on causal discovery ,that would be great. else feel free to join the call ---
**Author:** ![pmisra30](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/pmisra30/32/328_2.png) [@pmisra30](https://awg.osdr.space/u/pmisra30)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/17 "2025-02-12T17:11:07Z")
Apologies everyone, my office has mandated RTO on first 3 days of the week and hence I am struggling to join the 12:30 meeting on wednesday. I am trying to change it to Thursday but not able to do so on the portal. I should be able to fix it by next week and send you the new invite. Once again, apologies for this confusion @rtscott2001 @lauren.sanders @james.casaletto ---
**Author:** ![vaishnavi.nagesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/vaishnavi.nagesh/32/1236_2.png) [@vaishnavi.nagesh](https://awg.osdr.space/u/vaishnavi.nagesh)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/18 "2025-02-12T17:15:29Z")
Hi Pramod, Is it possible to have a different time please? The current meeting invite clashes with the digital twin group and I would like to be present in both. ---
**Author:** ![lauren.sanders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/lauren.sanders/32/186_2.png) [@lauren.sanders](https://awg.osdr.space/u/lauren.sanders)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/19 "2025-02-12T17:34:46Z")
I have the same request as Vaishnavi if possible 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jakubm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/jakubm/32/95_2.png) [@jakubm](https://awg.osdr.space/u/jakubm)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/20 "2025-02-12T17:47:10Z")
Yes, that would be great [Next page](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720.md?page=2)