# Causal Inference Sub Group 2025

**URL:** <https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720>\
**Category:** AIML AWG Open Projects\
**Tags:** aiml\
**Created:** [January 10, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720 "2025-01-10T21:03:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![rtscott2001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/rtscott2001/32/5_2.png) [@rtscott2001](https://awg.osdr.space/u/rtscott2001)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/21 "2025-02-12T18:02:29Z")

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Hi everyone interested in the [@AIMLawg](https://awg.osdr.space/groups/aimlawg) Causal Inference sub-group led by @pmisra30

I have updated the Causal Inference mtg to be rescheduled to tomorrow, Thursday, 2/13, 11:00a PT - 12:00 PT (2:00p ET - 3:00 ET)

**Pramod - let me know if it needs to move again** (as it overlaps with Digital Twin).

Sorry about the Discourse bug, where you can’t edit the calendar invite. Something about if I edit it, as Admin, you then can’t edit your own post? I’ve added a complaint to the Discourse support help

Sorry for the confusion to all who tried to login to the google meet invite, including @yigitkucuk92 🙂

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**Author:** ![jakubm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/jakubm/32/95_2.png) [@jakubm](https://awg.osdr.space/u/jakubm)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:01am UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/22 "2025-02-13T11:01:17Z")

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Thanks for doing this!  
Can we used the same link or a new one will be sent?

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**Author:** ![rtscott2001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/rtscott2001/32/5_2.png) [@rtscott2001](https://awg.osdr.space/u/rtscott2001)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:02am UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/23 "2025-02-13T11:02:24Z")

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I believe so, @pmisra30 is this correct? Same link ok? @lauren.sanders

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**Author:** ![jgong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/jgong/32/1469_2.png) [@jgong](https://awg.osdr.space/u/jgong)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/24 "2025-02-13T16:42:29Z")

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Wondering if this meeting is happening this morning. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![pmisra30](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/pmisra30/32/328_2.png) [@pmisra30](https://awg.osdr.space/u/pmisra30)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/25 "2025-02-13T16:46:07Z")

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> [@pmisra30](#):
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> # Roadmap 2025
> 
> The three primary objectives for this year are -
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> 1. Improving the accuracy of the existing CRISP model & testing/validating new ML models can help improve the coverage/accuracy. One approach to this is to find a biomedical dataset(s) where the causal relationships have been already established in the lab, and validate our causal algorithms on that dataset. Another approach is to use a structural equation modeling (SEM) approach in which a known causal structure is embedded in a dataset.
> 2. Evaluating other machine learning models & approaches in causal inference that can also help in unstructured data ( text & images) ,We have a team working on a “multi-modal CRISP”, version of CRISP that can take numeric matrix data and images. It would be great for this subgroup to evaluate and ultimately use that version of CRISP to answer some scientific questions
> 3. Do a research project to answer a key scientific question in spaceflight, using the improved causal inference algorithms

Yes, can you please change it to 2 to 3 PM EST , meeting invite and rest remains the same.hope that helps

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**Author:** ![pmisra30](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/pmisra30/32/328_2.png) [@pmisra30](https://awg.osdr.space/u/pmisra30)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/26 "2025-02-13T16:50:52Z")

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yes, we are having this meeting today at 2 PM EST

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**Author:** ![pmisra30](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/pmisra30/32/328_2.png) [@pmisra30](https://awg.osdr.space/u/pmisra30)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/27 "2025-02-13T16:51:41Z")

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Yes, the same link will work. I had shared the updated invite as well to those who were in my mailing list . it will start at 2 PM EST today.

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**Author:** ![pmisra30](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/pmisra30/32/328_2.png) [@pmisra30](https://awg.osdr.space/u/pmisra30)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/28 "2025-02-13T16:52:05Z")

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yes, thats correct.

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**Author:** ![rtscott2001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/rtscott2001/32/5_2.png) [@rtscott2001](https://awg.osdr.space/u/rtscott2001)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/29 "2025-02-13T19:06:32Z")

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[@AIMLawg](https://awg.osdr.space/groups/aimlawg) - the Causal Inference is going on right now 🙂

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**Author:** ![Abhinav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/abhinav/32/1429_2.png) [@Abhinav](https://awg.osdr.space/u/Abhinav)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/30 "2025-02-13T19:24:08Z")

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Would you have the link?

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**Author:** ![rtscott2001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/rtscott2001/32/5_2.png) [@rtscott2001](https://awg.osdr.space/u/rtscott2001)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 5:04am UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/31 "2025-02-14T05:04:46Z")

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The link in your calendar for this event was up-to-date 😕 Shoot, sorry missed this message!

Calendar: [Calendar/Upcoming Evenrs](https://awg.osdr.space/upcoming-events)

[https://meet.google.com/yjo-whae-shc](https://meet.google.com/yjo-whae-shc)

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/osdr/original/2X/f/f65c1968331f2801c5d493d91535d4ec685de999.png) [@system](https://awg.osdr.space/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/32 "2025-02-26T19:00:30Z")

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/osdr/original/2X/f/f65c1968331f2801c5d493d91535d4ec685de999.png) [@system](https://awg.osdr.space/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/33 "2025-03-12T18:00:59Z")

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**Author:** ![lauren.sanders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/lauren.sanders/32/186_2.png) [@lauren.sanders](https://awg.osdr.space/u/lauren.sanders)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/34 "2025-03-18T15:29:39Z")

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Hi @pmisra30 and maybe @rtscott2001 would it be possible to update the calendar invite here on the forum? I believe we are meeting 1:30PM Pacific time every other Monday starting next Monday 3/24.

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**Author:** ![lauren.sanders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/lauren.sanders/32/186_2.png) [@lauren.sanders](https://awg.osdr.space/u/lauren.sanders)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/35 "2025-03-24T20:35:52Z")

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Hi @pmisra30 we are in the Google Meet 🙂 Are we meeting today?

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**Author:** ![lauren.sanders](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/lauren.sanders/32/186_2.png) [@lauren.sanders](https://awg.osdr.space/u/lauren.sanders)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/36 "2025-03-24T21:10:41Z")

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Hi all - thank you for a great discussion today. Below please find notes/action items:

- James Casaletto @james.casaletto will start to research the best way to generate a “ground truth” dataset, e.g. structural equation modeling or generating a tabular dataset from a causal directed acyclic graph
- Yigit Kucuk @yigitkucuk92 will start to compare all the existing causal ML methods (e.g. DoWhy or Causal-Learn), creating little notebooks to showcase each method, which will eventually use the synthetic “ground truth” data that James will generate.
- Anna Leukowicz @anna.lewkowicz will start to research an interesting space biology research project upon which we can apply causal inference, and will also reach out to the Imageomics Institute at OSU to see whether they are working on causal models for images.

We are also shifting this meeting over 1 week, so starting next Monday March 31 we will meet every-other-week at 1:30PM Pacific time. @rtscott2001 could we please edit the forum calendar to reflect this?

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**Author:** ![yigitkucuk92](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/yigitkucuk92/32/1497_2.png) [@yigitkucuk92](https://awg.osdr.space/u/yigitkucuk92)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/37 "2025-03-24T21:11:46Z")

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Here is the work I mentioned today (still getting used to this interface): [Improving Fault Localization by Integrating Valueand Predicate Based Causal Inference Techniques](https://research.google/pubs/improving-fault-localization-by-integrating-valueand-predicate-based-causal-inference-techniques/)

Happy to extend on how we interpreted the interventions for adjustment for confounding.

Great meeting/re-meeting everyone!

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**Author:** ![rtscott2001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/rtscott2001/32/5_2.png) [@rtscott2001](https://awg.osdr.space/u/rtscott2001)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/38 "2025-03-24T21:12:47Z")

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So you are meeting 3/31?  
Thats when the calendar invite should be altered to?  
Would be best if someone from Causal Inf group started a new calendar invite, or @pmisra30 edits the one currently on Thursdays?

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**Author:** ![anuiris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/anuiris/32/1358_2.png) [@anuiris](https://awg.osdr.space/u/anuiris)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2025, 8:05am UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/39 "2025-03-25T08:05:13Z")

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Sorry, I haven’t been able to attend the meetings due to CET timing issues @pmisra30 @lauren.sanders  
Would definitely try to attend the next one. CRISP is quite exciting! Received around 5 emails with meeting notes yesterday (not sure why so many- maybe multiple AI note takers were used).  
@soroush.seylani do you have a list of radiation resistance genes? @aman and I could both use it for our Radiation protection papers. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![jakubm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/awg.osdr.space/jakubm/32/95_2.png) [@jakubm](https://awg.osdr.space/u/jakubm)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2025, 11:38am UTC](https://awg.osdr.space/t/causal-inference-sub-group-2025/1720/40 "2025-03-25T11:38:10Z")

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I do not have that meeting on my calendar (3/31), and I did not have the one that took place yesterday. Sorry I missed that. How can I update?

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